Talk:Holocaust
I want something to be added about a proper creationist view on the history of the holocaust. In a creationist view the holocaust is avoidable, there were alternatives available, choices were made, and the choices resulted in the holocaust, rather than in the alternative of no holocaust. What made the choices turn out the way they did is the human spirit. So a right history of the holocaust consists of a lot of objective facts about what choices were made, but also consists of a lot of subjective opinion about the human spirit.
Darwinists typically don't acknowledge any role for the spirit in history, duh. Instead of giving their subjective opinion in respect to the human spirit, they pretend the history is all a matter of objective fact about the human mind.
It should be pointed out that nazism was a selfprofessed rationalistic movement in which subjectivity was not acknowledged. They talked about the spirit of Aryans and of Jews as a matter of fact established by science, not as a matter of personal opinion.
For references there is the teacher's schoolbook for the hitler youth, which starts out with selfprofessing a "rational view on life" and to acknowledge besides the fact of physical differences, also acknowledge the FACT of spiritual differences among people. So the expression of opinion in nazism was highly problematical in nazism, because at the basis everything was considered to be a matter of fact.
Another reference is Heackel talking about Jesus as being a loving Aryan as a matter of pseudoscientific fact. Historian Daniel Gasman talks about this particular quote of Heackel.
Another reference is Klaus Fischer's book Nazi Germany a new history. He talks about the importance of recognizing the history could have turned out a different way, and that the reliance on predetermination is nazi. Further he concludes that by a circuitous route, Hitler's views were the product of science. So to say, racists put their views in science, asserting them as facts, gaining the legitemacy of science, further increasing the credibility of the views.
The main point should be acknowledging the human spirit in a properly subjective way, instead of in a matter of fact way pretending to measure the human spirit.
--Syamsu 01:09, 9 July 2012 (PDT)