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Human footprints have been found with dinosaur tracks at Paluxy (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Human footprints have been found with dinosaur tracks at Paluxy (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CC101:

Human and dinosaur footprints have been found together in the Glen Rose formation at Paluxy River, Texas.

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CreationWiki response: (Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. The footprints reputed to be of human origin are not.
  • Some of the footprints are dinosaur footprints. Processes such as erosion, infilling, and mud collapse obscure the dinosaurian features of some footprints, making them look like giant human footprints, but careful cleaning reveals the three-toed tracks of dinosaurs (Kuban 1989; Hastings 1987).
  • Some of the reputed prints are erosional features or other irregularities. They show no clear human features without selective highlighting.
  • Some of the prints show evidence of deliberate alteration (Godfrey 1985)
Talk.Origins makes these claims about the prints without showing a single picture of the prints. Not even their references show any pictures of actual prints. The test of any theory is how well it fits the evidence, so lets take a look at some of the evidence. A picture of Taylor Trail track "-3b" shows a clear human print with toes, over the edge of a dinosaur print and not the heel as predicted in Kuban's model. The fact that both heels are visible in this picture show that this is not an incompletely registered dinosaur track, but most likely a human foot print in a dinosaur track. This track is just one of 14 that make up the Taylor Trail. So it is not just a strange erosion feature. All but two of these tracks can be independently identified as right or left and they are all consistent with the right left pattern of the trail. Half of the tracks show clear evidence of toes. These tracks are consistent with a human 6’ 4" tall. These prints are good matches for a living human's feet of the right size and side. Talk Origins' third point mentions deliberate alteration of the evidence without a single picture or even a reference to specific prints so that one can check out their claim. There is evidence of deliberate alteration in two of the prints in the Taylor Trail but not to make them look more human. There is evidence that tracks +1 and -3B have been deliberately destroyed. The McFall Trail print -4e is another example of a human print with toes, over the edge of a dinosaur print. Right next to it is an undisturbed dinosaur print providing conclusive evidence that these are separate prints. The Ryals Track is on a dinosaur track but it is at an angle and off to the side. It also matches a modern human foot perfectly. The Morris Track is a nearly perfect human track that is totally unassociated with a dinosaur print, other than being in the same rock.
2. The Paluxy tracks are illustrative of creationists' wishful thinking and of their unwillingness to face evidence. Although some creationists have repudiated the Paluxy claim, many others still cling to it (Schadewald 1986).

The rebuttal of these tracks is being made without pictures of even a single track. All they provide is their theory of what is there without providing a single bit of actual evidence. Yet the main site supporting the human track theory has picture after picture of tracks, many of which are high resolution images.

Taylor Trail

McFall Trail

The Ryals Track

The Morris Track

So who's engaging in wishful thinking and an unwillingness to face the evidence? Certainly not those who support the human track theory. They place the evidence in full view for everyone to see, whereas those claiming that they are not human tracks only give their theories without presenting any evidence. If any one is unwilling to face the evidence, it is those who claim that these are not human tracks.


There is at least one location where similar tracks may exist.

Reference: Human and dinosaur footprints in Turkmenistan?

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