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Genesis 1 got the order of events right (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Genesis 1 got the order of events right (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CH801:

The creation account in Genesis 1 lists ten major events in this order: (1) a beginning; (2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water; (3) light; (4) an expanse or atmosphere; (5) large areas of dry land; (6) land plants; (7) sun, moon, and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning; (8) sea monsters and flying creatures; (9) wild and tame beasts, mammals; (10) man. The odds of getting that order correct by chance are one in 3,628,800.

Source: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1985. Life--How Did It Get Here? Brooklyn, NY, p. 37.


CreationWiki response:

Once again the source is Jehovah's Witnesses' Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. They are not a good source of creationist literature.

(Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. The real order is: (1) a beginning; (2) light; (3) sun and stars; (4) primitive earth, moon, and atmosphere; (5) dry land; (6) sea creatures; (7) some land plants; (8) land creatures, and more plants and sea creatures; (9) flying creatures (insects), and more plants and land and sea creatures; (10) mammals, and more land and sea animals, insects, and plants; (11) the first birds, (12) fruiting plants (which is what Genesis talks about), and more land, sea, and flying creatures; (13) man, and more of the various animals and plants. That is nothing like the order endorsed by Jehova's Witnesses.

2. The odds of choosing that particular order are not one in 3,628,800. Much of the order is constrained. For example, the beginning must have been first, and land had to exist before land animals and plants. When these are taken into account, the chance of getting that order are one in 5760 at worst.

3. The claim contradicts what Genesis says. Genesis doesn't say when the sun and moon became visible (which would not have been until after eyes were created in any event); it tells when they were created. Genesis also refers to fruiting plants, which came after the first sea and land animals.


CreationWiki agrees with Talk Origins on this claim, with the exception that what Talk Origins calls the "real order" is the evolutionary order, not the real one.

CreationWiki considers the Biblical order to be the real one.