Talk:List of Atheistic YouTube Channels

Hey guys. I just thought I'd add a list of a couple atheistic channels. This list is great if you want to look at some various atheistic arguments or feel like responding to some arguments. We could also make a page for responses to common YTing atheists. I'm also planning on making a list for religious channels.

There's a couple things that I should mention. First, there are occasional channel names with offensive or inappropriate titles. I took out all the F bombs, but I may have missed some others that this wiki community finds inappropriate. I'm not sure what the policy is on this, so feel free to take out the channels that would be offensive to this community. Also, a lot of these channels may have inappropriate language or images in the actual videos themselves, but not in the names (for example, some of 43alley's videos or a couple videos by ProfMTH). I think perhaps we should put up some warnings about those channels, but for now, be careful when looking through random channels. Also, just so everyone knows, I don't think I've ever seen an atheistic channel with a background image that is inappropriate, so surfing the actual channel should be fine.

Regarding my format, I don't really care if someone wants to change it. I made this list for myself so I could have some statistics on atheistic channels and look at their arguments, but if we decide to add various information or take out irrelevant information, that's fine with me. We could also turn it into a table instead of a list (dunno how to do tables though). Also, a lot of the information is incomplete, a lot of the summaries are not there/very vague and there also may be some mistakes in the information (but that's the good thing about a wiki community :) you can correct me). For the upload views/subscribers, I generally round up a bit because, obviously, the numbers will change. Regarding the summary, a lot should be changed to more specific summaries and they should probably summarize big topics that the person covers (morality, the bible, philosophy, free will, etc) while also pointing out unique traits of the channel (if there are any). For instance, Atheistblindchick really is blind and uses YouTube, which is really quite an interesting feat :P, Nonstampcollector is arguably the most popular anti-theist satirist on youtube and Evid3nce has the unique trait of taking arguments from all sorts of scholars.

So anyway, feel free to start editing the list :). If you want to help, you can find '?' and verify the information, you can find incomplete information on a channel and then fill it out by visiting it, you can look through some of the channels and try to summarize the arguments or you can pick a channel, look at the person's friends and subscribers and see if you can find a channel with atheistic videos that is not in the list :). By the way, my definition of an atheistic channel is one that has one or more uploaded videos (except in rare cases) that criticize any Christian concept in any way or defend any atheistic concept. For example, a channel that would fit the list would be one that argues that abortion is right because of so and so evolutionary argument. A channel that just argues that abortion is right without stating a side (christianity or atheism) would probably not qualify. Some more examples of channels that would fit on this list would be someone who argues that God is evil, that discusses a philosophical concept that has some relation to atheism or religion, that gives an explanation for the existence of religion from an atheistic view or even a channel that states that they are atheistic AND has a video that is against some type of religion (Islam, Buddhism or maybe even Scientology).

Have fun editing :). Shinydarkrai94 01:13, 11 February 2011 (PST)

Oh yea, really quick, another thing that you could do is start making links to the appropriate channel so that you can visit them just by clicking on it. This would probably be a better format than the current one. Shinydarkrai94 01:15, 11 February 2011 (PST)

Just a bit of an update. I've been working lately so I haven't been able to make that creationist list and I haven't been able to update the Christian list as much as the atheistic list. I'm done working for the summer though, so I'm going to try to get that done hopefully soon. Shinydarkrai94 08:26, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

I've been uncomfortable with this page from the beginning. By linking to them, we are simply offering encouragement and improving their ratings on search engines. Another editor made a similar notation on a related page. http://creationwiki.org/Talk:Anticreationist_forum_debate_tactics

I would recommend not wasting any more time adding links this page. If it causes any more trouble, we're going to delete it.

As mentioned before (I think the comments were deleted by a database restoration during the last software update) a list of creationist / Intelligent design YouTube channels would be much more in keeping with the purpose of this site. --Ashcraft - (talk) 12:45, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

Yes, I'm going to work on the creationist list. I do have one question regarding this list. I'm not going to work on this list any more, but I was considering making this list a bit more appropriate by deleting all of the channels that aren't really attempting to debate. If we weed out the ones that aren't really doing anything except for mockery, then this list could possibly be useful as a list of potential people to respond to. That was my original intention for benefiting the Christian community when I put this list on CreationWiki because I thought it would be nice to have a list that may encourage more responses to the anti-Christian community. You're the administrator though, do you mind if I make one final update in the future for this list? Shinydarkrai94 13:30, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

I was alerted to the existence of this page, and my inclusion in it, earlier today via a message from an atheist YouTube user. I do not identify as, nor refer to myself as, an atheist, in any company. I have posted videos on YouTube that are critical of some theists, but I have also posted just as many videos critical of atheists. My real position is "panentheistic," a form of theism that I find most compatible with the incarnational emphasis of (mystical) Christianity. Rather than sharply separating creature/creation and Creator, my professed form of philosophical theism attempts to bridge the gap, while still recognizing the important distinction. This essay expands upon my perspective: http://footnotes2plato.com/2010/12/09/religion-and-the-modern-world-towards-a-naturalistic-panentheism/

The fact that my own position has been misrepresented here alerts me to the possibility that many others listed here may also have been misrepresented. I do think it is a good idea to compile lists like this, but perhaps more discernment is necessary to distinguish the variety of positions that are possible. It is not as simple as "Creationist" or "Atheist," as this list, and indeed this entire Creationist wiki, seem to want to maintain. Christianity has a rich history of philosophical/theological positions that this dichotomy entirely obscures.

0thouartthat0 20:15, 11 September 2011 (PDT)0thouartthat0

Why would you think it is blatant misrepresentation when in the paragraphs preceding yours, we talk about how we are open to correction? I think you are misrepresenting the nature of the article and this community.

Christianity never maintained within its history of philosophical/theological debates a position of atheism, but always creationist. The dichotomy does what it is intended to do, display the lines so clarity in thinking can ensue. The dichotomy is fitting, especially given the academic credence of atheism. We will confront those pervading philosophies.--Tsommer (Tony) 21:02, 11 September 2011 (PDT)

Thanks for the corrections, 0thouartthat0. I moved you to the list of religious channels.Shinydarkrai94 08:31, 12 September 2011 (PDT)

Some errors are inevitable, and some people's views can also change. Is that not the purpose of such a resource in the first place? I was looking through the list of religious sites earlier and noticed the name of an atheist YouTuber that I recognised. So I moved him to this list and now it is more current. And while looking at this list I noticed some omissions (from my own country), and have updated it further. I don't see any harm in this list, or that it contains links. Surely if we have links to religious sites but not atheist sites are we not sending a signal that this information is dangerous, or something like that? When I look at these atheist channels I always think of Shakespeare and the line "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." from Hamlet. Anyone who spends long enough on these sites knows what I mean! Change the record!! Walsheternal 08:09, 13 September 2011 (GMT)

Thanks for the edits :). Shinydarkrai94 00:49, 13 September 2011 (PDT)