Talk:Abraham

• - Places associated with Abraham's family:

• - Reu: names of towns in the Middle-Euphrates valley? - Genesis

• - Peleg: Paliga on the Euphrates just above the mouth of the Habur? - Genesis

• - Serug (Assyrian Sarugi)? - Genesis

• - The city of Nahor from where Rebekah from from. - Genesis 24:10 (compare with: Genesis 11:22).

• - Compare with the Nakhur in the Mari tablets, discovered in 1935 and dated to the eighteenth century B.C.E. The Mari references and Assyrian records of the seventh century B.C.E., where Nahor occurs as Til-Nakhiri ("the Mound of Nahor"), located in the Balikh Valley below Haran. - Genesis...<more to come...>

• - Terah (Til Turakhi, the "Mound of Terah," in Assyrian times). - Genesis... <more to come...>

• - Abraham:

• - Abram, was a chaldean, an Iraqi. - (Genesis 11:28, 31; 15:7; Nehemiah 9:7; Acts 7:2-4)

• - The name of Abram (Abi-ramu) supports the existence of the name occurs in Mesopotamia.

• - More on Sheshonk I; lists the “Field of Abram" - See: Genesis 23:1-20. <more to come> (insert picture)

• - Babylon. - (32°32.11″N, 44°25.15″E)

• - The city of Ur/Uruk. - (31°19′20.N 45°38.10″E)

• - "Oasis of Abraham," nearby Al-Asad, Iraq (33°47′08.19″N 42°26′28.32″E) - An oasis nearby the Al-Asad Airbase which local bedouin tradition says is the oasis in which Abraham visted when he had traveled to Haran. - Genesis... -(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Asad_Airbase)

• - The Kurkh Monolith. - Genesis...

• - In the region of Paran - (30° 3'59.78"N 34° 0'52.91"E) - Genesis...

• - Haran. Located on a trade route between such cities as Damascus, Nineveh, and Carchemish. - Genesis...

• - In addition to speaking Hebrew, Abram likely spoken Akkadian and possibly Sumerian. Evidence seems to indicate there was no major dissimilarity between Aramaic and Hebrew at this time. Abraham's grandson Jacob and grandnephew Laban use two different terms in naming the heap of stone. Jacob called it "Galeed" while Laban used the Aramean term: "Jegar-Sahadutha." - (Genesis 31:45)

• - Wikipedia reads: "It is generally recognized by scholars that there is nothing in the Genesis stories that can be related to the history of Canaan of the early 2nd millennium:"
• - Who are these scholars? Critics obviously - who are critical hence the name.

• - Wikipedia reads: 'none of the kings mentioned are known,"
• - Well we certainly we have some strong candidates:
• - "Amraphel" (אַמְרָפֶל) king of Shinar (a reference to Mesopotamia) - ('Ammurapi) "Hammurabi." - - [1]
• - "Arioch" (אַרְיוך) king of Ellasar (אלסך) - Eri-aku (...) king of Larsa or Hurrian king Ariukki?
• - "Chedorlaomer" (כרְלָעֹמֶר or kedarlaɣmer) king of Elam ("Chodollogomor" in the LXX) could be a compound name Lagamar (laɣmar) is an Elamite deity (notice the ע in Hebrew originally had two sounds the ʕ = ay (from the throat) and the ɣ = gh (from the throat). The LXX transliterates in favor of the latter kedar+laɣmer) [2]
• - "Tidal" (תִדְעָל) "king of goyim (nations)" - Tudhaliya? - [3]
• - Little known from that period anyway.

• - Wikipedia reads: "Abimelech could not have been a Philistine (they did not arrive until centuries later)
• - Really? This seems to prove otherwise.
• - Little is known about the early history and origins of the Philistines peoples. Certainly not enough to this comment.
• - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abimelech) Abimiliki of the Amarna tablets?

• - Wikipedia reads: "Ur would not become known as "Ur of the Chaldeans" until the early 1st millennium,"
• - This would be expected as the writer Moses' would be using a vocabulary familiar to him and his audience. This explains passages like... (Genesis 2:14 "Assyria"; Genesis 3:24 "flaming blade of a sword" - NWT)

• - Wikipedia reads: "and Laban could not have been an Aramean,"
• - According to the Bible, Laban wasn't a descendant of Aram. Laban just happen to speak Aramaic.

• - Wikipedia reads: ...the Arameans did not become an identifiable political entity until the 12th century."
• - And whether the Arameans were or were not an "identifiable political entity" does disprove the account. How many groups throughout history were almost invisible until they rose to power? The main thing it doesn't disprove the Aramean people existed.

• - Wikipedia reads: "He is not clearly and unambiguously attested in the Bible earlier than the Babylonian exile"
• - An Egyptian inscription (the one found on the relief at the Karnak temple, depicting Pharaoh Shishak) (25°43′7″N 32°39′27″E) [4] describes "the field of Abram." Some will contend this still doesn't prove Abraham's existence. However, what does challenge is: the idea that it wasn't until the time of Babylonian captivity did the story of Abraham (Abram) come into existence. That assertion rest solely on fallacious belief the Torah was written after the Babylonian exile.--Anaccuratesource 16:35, 30 June 2012 (PDT)