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:I just popped in and noticed that none of what I raised here has really been addressed in a substantial fashion. "Nephilim" has been changed to "Giants" in headings etc, but the content still says that the Bible called Nephilim giants, and still lists post-flood references to large-statured people as being references to the Nephilim. Neither of these are true. The Bible calls the Nephilim "Nephilim". The ''only'' post-flood reference to the Nephilim is the "evil report" (which we know was an untrue report). While apochryphal references and the common theme of mythology indicate that the Nephilim could well have been (and probably generally were) gigantic, this does not mean that all giants are/were Nephilim. Genesis 6:4 has been nominated to support belief in post-lodd Nephilim, but no explanation is given why ''afterward'' should be taken to mean ''after the flood'' particularly as the flood as not yet been mentioned at that point. I don't think such an explanation belongs in the lead, but it should be in the article somewhere. I am loathe to make the corrections myself due to the "don't revert admins" rule. [[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 01:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC) | :I just popped in and noticed that none of what I raised here has really been addressed in a substantial fashion. "Nephilim" has been changed to "Giants" in headings etc, but the content still says that the Bible called Nephilim giants, and still lists post-flood references to large-statured people as being references to the Nephilim. Neither of these are true. The Bible calls the Nephilim "Nephilim". The ''only'' post-flood reference to the Nephilim is the "evil report" (which we know was an untrue report). While apochryphal references and the common theme of mythology indicate that the Nephilim could well have been (and probably generally were) gigantic, this does not mean that all giants are/were Nephilim. Genesis 6:4 has been nominated to support belief in post-lodd Nephilim, but no explanation is given why ''afterward'' should be taken to mean ''after the flood'' particularly as the flood as not yet been mentioned at that point. I don't think such an explanation belongs in the lead, but it should be in the article somewhere. I am loathe to make the corrections myself due to the "don't revert admins" rule. [[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 01:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Another follow up, still nothing. [http://creation.com/the-return-of-the-nephilim This] article by Gary Bates of CMI, and the linked PDF of the "Sons of God" appendix fo "Alien Intrusion" specifically addresses the same points I raised above. [[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 02:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC) | ::Another follow up, still nothing. [http://creation.com/the-return-of-the-nephilim This] article by Gary Bates of CMI, and the linked PDF of the "Sons of God" appendix fo "Alien Intrusion" specifically addresses the same points I raised above. [[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 02:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:: I have made a few changes - pasting some of your text above into the body of the article. I altered the intro and I moved the section specifically about recent [[Giants]] to that page. Feel free to make improvements upon the article. It still needs lots of work. | |||
:: I do however believe, based on (Genesis 6:4), that it is justified to assume that Nephilim were on the Earth after the flood, and the false reference to them from the spies at least acknowledges an awareness of them by the Israelites. I would ask that this assumption of their post-flood presence be preserved, although the certainty about their relationship to tribes was overstated. | |||
--[[User:Ashcraft|Ashcraft]] - ([http://creationwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ashcraft&action=edit&section=new talk]) 19:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
