Opinion talk:The Great Fossil-Tree Fiasco

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The essay looks very interesting, but I am having trouble following it. You may have knowledge that people like me need more explanation for. For example:

The Death Of The Fossil Tree

Now. The interesting thing is this: breeding using alleles, can produce CLADISTIC changes.

To put it bluntly: there is no reason NOT to think of the Fossil-Tree as a record of wolf-Pekinese-type events. I.e a NS-of-A-FT.

To put it bluntly: there is no reason to think that the Fossil-Tree is a record of Evolution-in-Action. I.e. E-FT.

(Maybe Yay for Occam; but rather this: NSoA is DEMONSTRABLE. Evolution is NOT demonstrable.)


Perhaps my problem is I didn't go to read the site mentioned. I couldn't understand the abbreviations until I read to the bottom of the page, and then I had trouble following how natural selection of alleles producing cladistic change was important for showing that evolution did not work. I felt like you had something important here, maybe by arguing against cladistics, but I couldn't quite figure out how to explain your thoughts.

Oh, you may want to hide the http of the site, to fit the creationwiki rules a bit better. you can add a title after a single space, and only the title should appear.

--John Baab 17:08, 11 October 2010 (PDT)


  1. There is no need to bother correcting anything, since these mini-essays will soon be deleted.
  2. Without the abbreviations, reading becomes quite cumbersome. Also, the idea is to try, to a degree, to force the reader to get a better grip on the basic ideas involved. My test-reader also complains about it, so I do get the point.


I went to some effort so that going to the link should not be necessary: so that is not the problem.

This distinction is this: the Evolutionists claim that the Great Invisible PROCESS of Evolution "created" new things, specifically the "new" cladistic changes.

I.e. looking at the Fossil Tree, is to "see" Evolution-in-action. (Thus say the "peer-reviewed scientists".)

Occam states that you first use what you already know to explain what you do not yet know: we know that the PROCESS of Natural Selection of Alleles can cause cladistic changes... so why on Earth should anybody want to think that the Process of Evolution caused them in regards to the Fossil-Tree?

So. Looking at the Fossil-Tree, is to "see" Natural Selection of Alleles; in action. (This is quite obvious. So obvious that one wonders at the motivation of all those who side-step this explanation...)

This has serious implications: just one would be the legal status of teaching Evolution in schools. Given the extreme and blatant nature of the deception the relevant "scientists" are engaged in... at the PEER-REVIEW level... one wonders how an impartial judge would react (via "reasonable man").

And this is just ONE example of their corrupt-collusion/ groupthink.

Oh. And there is grant monies involved as well... a side-dish of fraud, anyone?

Tootles. --LoonyBunny 22:04, 12 October 2010 (PDT)