Talk:Eber

Hyksos timeline
To CelticCreationist: Are you sure you want to use conventional dates for the Hyksos? You run into a serious problem: the Manetho Dynasties go back to dates before the Flood of Noah.

If you look at Egyptian chronology and Ancient Egypt, you'll see that I always relied on the shortened Egyptian chronology of Walker et al. That chronology assumes that the First and Second Intermediate Periods were the same, and the Third Intermediate Period did not take place as Manetho assumed. I'm sure you'll agree that the history of Egypt cannot have begun a day sooner than the disembarkation from the Ark, in 2348 BC. The question is: when did the history of the nation-state of Egypt begin, and under whom?

The key to the telescoped Egyptian chronology is this: the Manetho Dynasties did not run consecutively. Many of them ran concurrently.

See also Joseph, Moses, and Exodus of Israel.

Whatever else we do here, we need to make sure to agree and unite on a unified theory of Egyptian chronology. Otherwise this body of work will be self-contradictory, and that will kill it in secular eyes.--TemlakosTalk 07:32, 24 July 2012 (PDT)


 * Yes, I certainly agree. You're welcome to change the dates in the article to whatever you think would be more accurate and consistent with the other articles. --CelticCreationist 07:47, 24 July 2012 (PDT)


 * There's a bigger problem with that. I maintain that the Hyksos are the Amalekites, and furthermore, that the Pharaoh of the Exodus was not an Empire or New Kingdom Pharaoh, but rather was Neferhotep, the last Pharaoh of the Thirteenth Dynasty, before the period that I call The Intermediate Period. But you imply that an Eighteenth or Nineteenth Dynasty Pharaoh lost the army in the Red Sea.--TemlakosTalk 07:56, 24 July 2012 (PDT)


 * I see. Do what you think is best regarding the article, then. --CelticCreationist 08:03, 24 July 2012 (PDT)