Talk:Human and chimp genomes differ by more than one percent (Talk.Origins)

"Only if one assumes a common ancestor. What it objectively shows is that humans have more in common with chimpanzees than any other Created kind, but so what? Some kind has to have that designation, and it just happens to be chimpanzees."

This sort of thing has bugged me for quite some time now. Baraminology seems to be 100% theoretical, is the only reason why the chimpanzee is a different "kind" than homo-sapiens because the bible says so? If we were to compare homo-sapien / chimpasee genomes one beside the other, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference at first glimpse.

As far as I know, humans and chipanzees differ about the same as wolves and dogs, although the latter is part of the same baramin, or "kind".

-- RichardT 23:05, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

There is at least 3 to at the most 6 percent difference in human/chimp DNA depending on which nucleotides you count. We are different, and the differences obviously is what should be concentrated on as a creationist. However the similarities can easily be perscribed to an intelligent designer, rather than the blind process of evolution over millions of years via mutations. --Tony Sommer 03:13, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

I know that the percentage of differenciation depends on which nucleotide is being examined, but this doesn't address my concern. How can we say that wolves and dogs are of the same "kind" when we say that homo sapiens and chimpazees are different "kinds"?

-- RichardT 23:22, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

Because differences are far greater between man and chimp than dog and wolf I suppose. --Tony Sommer 03:13, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

An article should be written up about this. There shouldn't be any species that is in the same kind as an other that has more differences than the homo sapien / chimpanzees.

-- RichardT 23:28, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

It isn't that simple and with statements like those I don't think you are following creation science implications based upon Biblical reading which is what creation science has its foundation in. Humans are far more above and beyond anything else, we are the utmost of God's creation. Once that is recognized you can have animal kinds and other types to classify respectively based upon differences. There is no similarity between anything outside of humankind to humans, because humans are above all else and should be set aside and classified specifically outside of animal classification, because we have souls and a spirit they don't, we know right from wrong they don't and other core biblical principals sperating us from animals. --Tony Sommer 03:13, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

I wonder, are there any wolf-dog hybrids? Or is this a stupid question I'm asking? --Zephyr Axiom 23:37, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

I guess so, See here --sub_zer0 23:38, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

Are there any known human-chimp hybrids? I think I heard once something about either a Nazi or Soviet program attempting to make a hybrid between humans and apes, but that failed. --Zephyr Axiom 23:50, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

As far as I know, there has not and have never been a succesful attempt at human/chimp hybrid. I wouldn't put it past hitlers sick mind to try such a thing, seeing as he clearly believed in evolutions survival of the fittest being the only way. --Tony Sommer 03:13, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Very informative blog item, by the way. I am now convinced that a wolfdog is not a pet for me. --Zephyr Axiom 00:07, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Very informative articlee as well, heh.. h/t --Tony Sommer 03:14, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Genetic Information and Human/Chimp Genomes
Is it possible to add a section about the genetic impossibility of this transaction (chimp to homo-sapien)?

--RichardT 17:18, 2 April 2007 (EDT)