User talk:Tmajor/Archive 1

portal:evolution
You screwed up the page I was currently working on - WHY? --Chris 13:23, 11 November 2006 (EST)


 * I meaning to fix it. I am in the process of creating a Portal namespace, and I have to temporarily move the pages otherwise they get wiped out. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't check the time of your edits and that you were working on it right now. --Tom 13:26, 11 November 2006 (EST)

I know you probably are really confused right now about why I did this. What I was trying to do was prevent a technical problem from occurring. Before you create articles in a new namespace, that namespace has to be created. If it's the other way around, then the articles get wiped away. Basically what I was doing was moving the articles that were called "Portal:..." to something else, then I created the namespace and moved them back. --Tom 14:18, 11 November 2006 (EST)

discussion restoration / user talk pages
Tom, why did you restore that discussion on the NSCS page? It appeared as though you intentionally reversed my deletion. Please explain.

I have also noticed you editing the content of usertalk pages. When you do this, the person is sent an email stating that someone has sent them a message. The person will then loggin, search their page for the message, to find nothing. Very confusing...

IMHO - Usertalk pages should be considered private, and therefore there is no reason to make clarifications so it could be understood by outside parties. I personally find it inappropriate for anyone to enter a usertalk page except to leave or retrieve personal messages.

p.s. Love the new edit toolbar! --Mr. Ashcraft 14:35, 27 November 2006 (EST)


 * well I didn't restore it to annoy you, if that's what you mean ;-). I didn't really understand why it was taken out. I didn't see anything particularly offensive in that conversation. I thought maybe it could be archived or some such, rather than just removed.
 * Well, it's a nice idea about private talk pages, but the fact is that everyone can see them. This isn't a forum with private messaging. Anyways, probably just a little bit of wiki culture shock for me ;-). At Wikipedia they would do the same thing I'm doing by adding the unsigned to comments that were not signed. I can't remember what policy on wikipedia it is, but basically it says that you can edit comments as long as it doesn't change what they said. So for example, formatting of a conversation to help a future reader understand it better, organizing a conversation with headers, placing unsigned on comments, etc. That kind of stuff I consider minor changes...
 * I don't get this whole thing with the newest comments at the top. I have never seen any wiki do this before. -- Tom 14:47, 27 November 2006 (EST)

nscs template
Tom, I just realized this doesnt seem to work correctly, but I cant figure out why.

--Mr. Ashcraft 23:03, 4 January 2007 (EST)


 * How should it be working? -- Tom 23:09, 4 January 2007 (EST)


 * It didnt correctly link to the userpage the last few times I tried to apply it, but then it worked when I posted it here, so I explored around a little more.


 * Take a look at these examples (CreationWiki:Sandbox). Two separate uses where one works, but the other does not and yet they appear identical. The one that doesnt work has this (%E2%80%8E) added to the filename in some hidden fashion. (User:Tcrain) vs. (User:Tcrain%E2%80%8E). It doesnt appear on the page when saved, but its part of the URL. --Mr. Ashcraft 23:29, 4 January 2007 (EST)


 * Could be a bug with the current version of Semantic MediaWiki. I'll upgrade it to the latest version and see what happens. -- Tom 23:36, 4 January 2007 (EST)
 * I upgraded it and it didn't fix it. I think I found whatever the problem was though. Somehow some character problem occurred on your PC. Even though it looks like each of those examples in the Sandbox were identical, they actually weren't. That's why you were seeing those weird characters. I copied and pasted the examples that were working from the sandbox over top of the ones that weren't, and viola. -- Tom 23:53, 4 January 2007 (EST)


 * If you would like, we could make some sort of box for the student's user page, that would show them a list of the pages that they were assigned to. It would auto update whenever you added that "assignedto=" attribute. -- Tom 00:03, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Allow all users?
MediaWiki:Protect-default Allow all users

What does this setting do that you changed? --Mr. Ashcraft 01:39, 5 January 2007 (EST)


 * That just makes the 'page protection' page a little easier to understand :-) -- Tom 01:43, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Brief error and log-out
Tom,

Everything looked good after the update, and I was making an edit, and got this message:


 * Warning: require_once(/home/jcreatio/public_html/extensions/GoogleSitemap.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/jcreatio/public_html/ExtensionSettings.php on line 30


 * Fatal error: require_once [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/jcreatio/public_html/extensions/GoogleSitemap.php' (include_path='/home/jcreatio/public_html:/home/jcreatio/public_html/includes:/home/jcreatio/public_html/languages:.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/jcreatio/public_html/ExtensionSettings.php on line 30

It cleared up pretty quick, but I had to log back in. Just thought you might like to know.

--Davelr 13:45, 15 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Thanks. Was correcting an error with the Google Sitemap extension right then, and sometimes it does that when I'm in the middle of working on it :-). Now I just have to figure out what's wrong with the timeline extension. -- Tom 13:53, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Database error
Tom, I received the following error message when searching for a term. It shows up for any search.

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'searchindex.MYI' (errno: 145) (localhost)".

--Davelr 18:40, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

(Update: Seems to have disappeared.)

--Davelr 18:40, 1 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Thanks for letting me know. It's fixed now :-). -- Tom 19:14, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

How to change settings
Hello, Tom. A couple of weeks ago, Chris gave me the phpMyAdmin username and password, and urged me to talk to you about the way the software works on this system.

I want to activate the Cite extensions, that processes the "ref" and "references" tags, the same as on Wikipedia. Now according to MediaWiki, I need to add a line to a file named "LocalSettings.php." But when I go to open that up, it has only one line, saying that it is "not a valid entry point."

Where do I go, then, to add a PHP command to recognize the files "Cite.php" and "Cite18n.php" that we already have in the /extensions/Cite directory?

The major benefit of Cite is that it obviates the need to make duplicate listings of references. Furthermore, a reference could be either an external link, an internal link, or even a link to an off-line source. Better yet, you can name a reference and cite it multiple times in the body of the text. This almost obviates the ibid. notice, and suddenly op. cit. makes better sense if all that has changed in a citation are the pages cited.

Of course, non-experienced users can still cite references as they presently do.

As I said: I would have done this myself (I have clearance from Chris), but I don't know where to go in this setup. This site is running a non-standard implementation of MediaWiki, and has put the extension invocation in a non-standard place, which I can't find.--TemlakosTalk 16:55, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Hi :-). I enabled it now, but here's how I did it. You're right that this is not a standard install of MediaWiki. I custom designed CreationWiki in light of the fact that it contains multiple language wikis. So what I've done is made a single file that controls all the extensions for the entire site... english, spanish, and the media pool. Unless there is a specific technical reason to do so, no extensions should be listed within the LocalSettings.php. All extensions are in a file called "ExtensionSettings.php." Really the only other reason you'd want the extension listed in LocalSettings.php is if you only want it available for that one wiki, and not the entire site. Anyways, you will also find most other settings in that one file. AS much as possible, we're trying to cut down on duplicated information to make administrating multiple wikis easier ;-). --Tom Major 17:11, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

RDF Feeds Down
Tom: what happened to the RDF feeds? None of my relationships propagate out as they used to. I noticed it when I created a new page for Josiah, but my previous pages, like that for Hezekiah, don't have their RDF feeds, either. Do you suppose we jinxed them when we activated Cite? Or does the fault lie elsewhere?--TemlakosTalk 21:04, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Nothing wrong with it ;-). The Semantic MediaWiki extension should be still fully functional, except the box is hidden. Chris kept asking me what was wrong with the box (it showed two boxes for some strange reason), so it was easier to hide it temporarily and get the problem fixed later. If you still need RDF, there is this page, or we can re-enable the box if you want to try to fix it. --Tom Major 21:54, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Thus far, all that happens is that the box doesn't show up. Let's keep it hidden for now, unless I have the chance to learn enough about RDF even to attempt to fix it. In the meantime, how do you like my article on Josiah, that uses the new Cite extension?--TemlakosTalk 21:59, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * It's looking pretty sweet. :-) --Tom Major 22:08, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Well, Tom, are we any closer to repairing the RDF feed? Yes, I saw the two different boxes shortly before you hid the feature--something about "tie-back links" that I couldn't quite understand. What page is that code stored in?--TemlakosTalk 17:01, 18 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Sorry, don't have time at the moment. Preparing for finals in the next few weeks. The hide setting is in /extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Settings.php --Tom Major 19:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

"public domain"
Tom, for future reference - simply stating that an image is "Public domain" is not sufficient for the Copyright Status entry during upload. You must make a statement regarding "Why".

I added this statement to the following image:

This image is in the public domain because its copyright has expired. http://creationwiki.org/pool/Image:Darwin_ape.jpg#Copyright_status

--Mr. Ashcraft - (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I realize that. When I move the images though, I'm simply copying them as is. If the licensing is incorrect when I copied it from EN to the Pool, then it would be an issue with the original uploader. --Tom Major 14:34, 10 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Understood - and thanks for moving them. However, the policies regarding upload requirements have been revised to be more stringent, and the Copyright form field may not have even existed when the file was originally uploaded. For all future uploads, regardless of whether its simply a move from the EN to the Pool, a proper Copyright status must be provided. --Mr. Ashcraft - (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2007 (EDT)