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Speculation

I have made some changes to this article, but I still have concerns with the following:

• (This is a minor one) Was Cain's city called "Enoch"? Genesis 4:17 says that his city was name after Enoch, but it doesn't follow that the city was therefore named Enoch. Alice Springs in Australia was named after Alice Todd. Alexandria in Egypt was named after Alexander the Great, Jacksonville in the U.S.A. was named after Andrew Jackson.

• "These libraries of knowledge did not begin to develop until the written word was invented" makes a presumption about when that occurred. Some people believe that Genesis 5:1 indicates that Adam knew how to write, and I don't know of any reason to think that he didn't.

• "no archaeological evidence of even the most primitive forms of writing have been discovered earlier than ancient Babylon which followed the tower of Babel" This is contradicted by this site.

• "Even several hundred years later, during the time of the Egyptians, only hieroglyphics were in use." But hieroglyphics are a form of writing.

• "The development of symbolic language seemingly coincides with the decline in human longevity." Only if you accept the secular view on when writing arose, and mix that with the Biblical record of longevity.

• "When people lived to be 1000 years of age there was little need to archive knowledge externally." This is rather presumptuous. (Nearly) 1000 years of age would not have seemed a long time to them; rather it would have been a normal age. Or even a short age, compared to living for ever, which is what God intended for their recent ancestor (Adam). Besides, writing would still have been useful for transmitting information between two people geographically apart.

• "Monumental constructions are a great source of pride for humans. It was most likely this type of technological development that God attempted to retard by creating the language barriers at the tower of Babel." It was not technological development that God was opposed to. It was their rebelliousness against Him. He had told Noah that they were to fill the Earth, but they settled in one spot. So God confused their language and scattered them over the Earth.

• "given God's reaction, it is logical to propose that nothing like it had been built prior to the flood." This does not follow at all. First, it could be that nothing had been built before with a similar purpose. Second, it could simply be a case of different circumstances, not a different structure.

• "Prior to the flood, the atmosphere is thought to have been much more stable than it is today, providing an almost globally uniform temperature." This was a component of the Canopy model, now largely rejected. With a tilted axis, there would have been both seasons and a range of temperatures from the equator to the poles.

• "This is evident by the discovery of fossilized ferns and amphibians on Antarctica." Which can also be explained by continental movement, so does not provide much support for even temperatures.

• "It is also believed that it had not rained prior to the flood, but the earth was instead watered by free-flowing springs and mist." This is also part of the Canopy model, and not a safe argument.

• "Nevertheless, any constructions during this period were likely made of wood or dried mud." On what basis is this argument made?

• "An Antediluvial civilization can be recognized: ... If the civilisation did not use bricks. Genesis 11 records that man baked bricks only after the flood." It doesn't actually say that. It merely says that they used bricks instead of stone.

• "Discoveries of preflood civilizations / The Koonalda Cave beneath the Nullarbor plain:" The article doesn't offer any evidence that the art is non-aboriginal, nor does it explain how fragile art would have survived an extremely destructive flood. This claim is fanciful.

Philip J. Rayment 14:39, 18 March 2006 (GMT)

(Philip)-Was Cain's city called "Enoch"? I found this. http://nabataea.net/eden8.html PrometheusX303 13:44, 19 March 2006 (GMT)